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Vehicle Windows

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Started Painting up some British Leyland DAF vehicles and wanted to know what people thought about my Window color for that vehicle.

For the US FMTV, I used Green for armor windows. Now, i know the FMTV probably does not really have an armor window but as you can see that horse left the barn.

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Please let me know what you think about the blue windows on the British Vehicle.

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Post by BurtWolf »

Hey Hoth, I have always found windows to be tricky. Over the years I have gone away from blue, it just seems too bright and distracts me from the rest of the model. I think your blue here is too bright. My compromise with myself has been to mix grey in with the blue so it looks dingy and barely blue. Just my two cents, thanks for sharing!!

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BurtWolf,

Thanks for the feedback, I am going to give that a try and see if I like the results. However, I do want to keep some element of blue in appearance.

As for your two cents, keep it coming. I joined this forum for constructive criticism. I may not always follow everything that is given but I do learn from all of it. The advice, opinions and other peoples work has inspired, motivated and taught me a lot.

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My personal preference is a gloss black wash. I let the base colour show through because hey, it's glass, it's meant to show the inside, which is neither blue nor black (usually). And the gloss reflects light that shines on it, like...glass. The reason I don't just use gloss varnish is that the insides are usually darker, being in shadow, so... black gloss wash.
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Post by redleg »

I think both colors look pretty good, but if I were to pick one I liked better I would prefer the blue. I use dark blue for my vehicle windows and light blue for aircraft canopies. Neither one looks terribly realistic, but it suits my needs as an amateur collector/player with toys. If I were a true modeler I would b very disappointed with my work!

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Post by Hoth_902 »

Redleg,

What color blue did you use for your vehicles. The lighting is too dim. As for your stuff, I like how it looks. Thanks for sharing.

Piersyf, panzergator and BurtWolf, thanks for the suggestion. Will probably test it out.
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I just use the standard Testors gloss dark blue in the little square bottle. Here is another picture, but I don't know if it is any better. The blue shows up better on my daughter's HMMWV!

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Redleg,

Thanks for the picture and the color. I actually have that color and will try that on my next attempt. Love the Pink Humvee. I told my girlfriend that i would paint up some vehicles for her with non traditional camo colors.

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My daughter enjoys"playing tanks" with me, though she rarely follows all of the rules and she always wins!

Here is a detachment from my tanks meeting a detachment of her tanks outside of the famous Rainbow Castle for a parade. Unfortunately the parade is interrupted by a giant lizard!

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Redleg,

Thanks for sharing the pics from the Rainbow Castle. Those are awesome and fun. Good thing you guys could combine forces to combat the lizard assault.

Side question,

What color did you use for your forces? What color green is that?
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Windows

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I use a # 1 pencil for windows. It gives it a dark grey color that looks reflective like a window. It is easier to pencil in your windows than paint and wash.

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Post by redleg »

The green is just straight up Testor's olive drab. The little square bottle is color 1165 flat olive, and the spray paint version is color 1265 flat olive drab.

When I started collecting and painting again I was traveling for work and I only had access to a Michael's store with basic Testor's paint. Now I have a real hobby store nearby with all different brands of paint, but I'm happy with the Testor's so I just keep using that.

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Post by Mk 1 »

I'm a little late to the thread, but thought I might chime in anyway.

The technique I use now I learned here on the forum after much discussion. In particular it was suggested to me that I look down on a parking lot or street from some height, to gain a perspective on what we try to re-create on our tables. As I was working in a high-rise at that time, it was easy for me to do, and I found the results pretty compelling.

In the past I have painted vehicle glass light blue, or dark blue, or silver. But it was suggested here that I paint them black. And the "look down on reality" test verified that that the overwhelming majority of car and truck windows do indeed appear black. But...

Somehow blue is a repeated perspective that people come to. And silver. And somehow I just didn't like the way black looked. And wondered why.

See ... most vehicle glass looks black because the insides are in shadow. But ... we often get a reflection off of the glass. And when we ask what color the glass is, we ignore the reflection and try to look past it, and say black.

But the reflection is there. Almost always. And it is, most often, either blue (the sky is reflecting) or silver (clouds or the direct sun reflecting).

So what I now do, also suggested here in the forum, is paint the windows black. And then dab some metallic blue (or maybe sometimes silver) in the center of the pain.

Then after all else is done and dullcoted, I dab the windows with a quick glosscote.

It really does come out looking good at gametime. It looks like black glass with a reflection. And it helps give definition to the window framing, even if that framing has not been done as well as I might have wanted it to be.

Some examples:

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The motorpool for my Romanian force. Quite a mixed bunch. Not the best pic for my purposes here. But look at the Opel trucks -- particularly the green ones. You get a sense of how they look reflective. If you look at the Renaults in the back row you get a sense of the definition it gives to the window frames.

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Aircraft often have a LOT of separate panes of glass. This helps show off the technique to good effect. Here are some Brand-X Romanian JR-79r bombers. Note both the reflective appearance and the definition of the framework?

It may read like an involved process. But in fact, because of the improved result it gives to even a bit of sloppy/inconsistent framework, I find it takes me LESS, rather than MORE, work to implement this technique. I used to frequently re-do my windows because of slip-ups on the frames. Now the black outlining result of this technique kind of fools the eye, and I don't feel compelled to get near-perfection on the frames.

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MK 1,

Not sure its possible to be late to a thread. I think keeping this and other tip threads alive is important. Thanks for your post.
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